- with Darrell Udelhoven
For reasons I list here, I do not believe that the government ought to be mandating SEER levels.
The higher SEER rated unit "if" operating with too high an evaporator temperature will not do an adequate job of reducing high humidity environments. A 55-F discharge air is needed in a 75-F room with long run-cycles to achieve a 50% RH.
When the humidity is higher the evaporator increases its ratio of latent heat absorption. (I may graph the increases later.)
Air Temperature Drop Through Evaporator Coil (1987 Period)
Indoor temperature and humidity load variations graph.
Refrigeration & Air-Conditioning (ARI) Second Edition,
Page 624, © 1987
Especially if your system is oversized or there are a lot of low AC load days use an Adjustable Differential Room TSTAT.
TH Differential: Differential is defined as the difference between the cut-in and cut-out points as measured at the thermostat under specified operating conditions. For example, if the thermostat turns the COOLING EQUIPMENT ON AT 78-F & OFF at 76-F that is a 2 degree differential setting; heating equipment on at 70 degrees F and turns the heating equipment off at 74 degrees F, then the differential is 4 degrees F. Some have half degree increment settings over several degrees of differential spread.
As you put more total heat-load through the evaporator coil, up to its capacity ceiling, both total capacity and efficiency increase for optimal Btu/hr, EER, and SEER.
You can achieve a higher latent ratio in high humidity climates through design changes, evaporator, and TXV metering device selection, set at 6º F for optimum reduction of the temperature of the DX Coil, and reducing airflow after the unit gets the humidity near 50%. At the higher humidity levels, the unit will operate closer to its Btu/hr rating set at 400-cfm/ton. Using modern control systems, this would be easy to achieve.
When we use to have an oversized compressor in relationship to the evaporator's capacity, it could get that DX coil very cold in a hurry and keep it that way.
Specially engineer-designed DX Coils could optimize total latent capacity at the highest to below 50% relative humidity levels. Areas of Florida, Louisiana and even Green Bay, WI need unit systems designed for optimal latent heat operating capacities.
Just a 'rough' brief demonstration of how the latent heat capacity of the DX coil "increases with the increase in room relative humidity.
A modern 2-ton 13-seer system would produce around .70 of a ton or 8,400-Btu/hr, however at 70% Relative Humidity its capacity would increase to around 1.1 ton or 13,200-Btu/hr or over half of the 2-tons would be used for the latent heat-load. "That is around a 36% increase in latent capacity" and a 36% reduction in sensible capacity, --due to a higher humidity.
There are four main factors to humidity control. These are related to equipment selection and installation and the effects of the performance of the four equipment factors. The Four Factors are: evaporator coil selection, airflow, refrigerant control device, and superheat setting of the refrigerant cycle.
Regarding Coil Selection:
"If based on a much higher operating temperature/pressure ratio of the larger coil 'in order to get the required volumetric efficiency in the smaller compressors' and still get the units rated BTUH." (Lowering the fan CFM and thus further lowering the volumetric efficiency in the smaller compressors will also produce the longer required run-time cycles in a proper sized unit. Suction vapor pressures determine the volumetric efficiency of the smaller compressors in the ultra high SEER units.
Before the high SEER units came along the compressor had considerably more BTUH pumping capacity than the BTUH rating of the condenser. Now, the compressor is rated considerably below the condenser's BTUH rating. This makes it rather impossible to run a low temp/low pressure DX coil (due to loss of its volumetric capacity at lower temp/pressures) without sacrificing considerable tonnage amounts of the units BTUH rating. Of course, this loss in capacity would provide more run-time for condensation of moisture. (Keep these tech facts in mind!)
DX-Coil size is a major factor determining the balance between Dry/sensible and latent/Wet heat removal. Evaporator coil size determines this ratio. Larger evaporator coils normally remove less humidity, because they operate at a much higher coil temperature/pressure ratio --smaller E-Coils tend to remove more humidity --because they normally operate at a much lower operating temperature, provided you can operate it at a low enough temperature /pressure. Lowering the temp./pres. will lower the compressor's BTUH output.
Page 618, Refrigeration & Air-Conditioning (ARI) Second Edition, C 1987
Those lower SEER units had higher condenser splits than 12-SEER and higher units.
Sorry, I defiled the graph, 90-db outdoor, 80-db indoors with 67 wet bulb or 50% RH represents the condenser splits shown above graph. Graph: 80-DB & 80-WB line-intersect is 100% Relative Humidity.
Typical matched units from major manufacturers have Sensible Heat Ratios (SHR) in the 68% to 80% range (or 32% to 20% Latent) when it is 95-F outside and 75-F with 50% relative humidity inside. Proper mixing of the air and proper distribution to individual rooms is critical for comfort. Higher humidity produces a much higher ratio!
You are right on target. If you don't get RH control with your high efficiency system then you don't get shit, because it may not keep up on the hottest days and/or it may leave you sweating in the cool indoor air. Do not get over a 10 SEER system in high humidity regions unless your system provides some [effective] means for Relative Humidity Control. The Infinity system uses an ECM and two-speed compressor. At 17-SEER it will get the air as dry as you want it.
I think you have at least one misconception, and that is that continuous high latent capacity is required in high humidity regions. This isn't so, since moisture requires time in order to infiltrate into the conditioned space. Intermittent operation in high latent capacity mode is all that is required, the rest of the cycle is run at high SST, providing the volumetric efficiency that you are worried about. Going with a smaller evaporator limits what you can do SEER-wise, since you will be providing for high latent capacity 100% of the time, when it is only required for a fraction of that time. [No misconception,I'm in agreement.]
As for experience, I have been in several structures with 12-13 SEER stuff installed that were absolutely uncomfortable.
Lowering the blower speed will take care of the excessive humidity, but like you said, it will kill the extra SEER, and it will sometimes reduce the system capacity a half ton or more, so that it will no longer keep up like the old 8 SEER junk did.
In general, I agree with most of your instincts on these topics. - Richard Perry 3/18/05
A correctly sized and designed high SEER (13+ SEER) will maintain a comfort level of 75 degrees "Indoor Bry Bulb" (IDB) with an indoor RH of 50% with no problem even when its 95/95 outside, and with a lot less energy usage than a 10 SEER system could ever dream of. Come on down to the gulf coast and we'll show you how its done.(Posted by Noon-Air 3/18/05)========================================
Airflow across the cooling coil, coupled with sufficient unit run-time, has a significant effect on proper humidity removal. Too much air will result in poor dehumidification. Too little air can cause the ductwork to sweat in the unconditioned spaces and damage the home. The right amount of air is usually about 350 CFM to 400 CFM per ton. Lower airflow to a point produce increased humidity removal. Finding the right air flow balance can help eliminate some comfort and humidity problems.
The Refrigerant Control Device
The most effective control in this application is "a balanced port (TEV) expansion valve." The expansion valve allows exacting control of the refrigerant and provides consistent performance over a wide range of conditions that exist. Humidity control is usually poor at best without a TEV. Adding an expansion valve to an existing system can could often improve performance, reducing operating costs, and extending the life of the system.
At 50% Relative Humidity the Sensible Heat Factor (SHF) load is around 75% of the unit's BTUH design. After taking the temp drop across the DX-coil here is the formula to find CFM.
CFM = 4-ton unit (48000-BTUH X .75-SHF) / (temp drop 20-F X 1.08)
(36000) / (21.6) = 1666-CFM / 4-Ton = 416.5-CFM per Ton (OK)
Every owner of an A/C unit should have an accurate humidity gauge.
My response to an HVAC Forum question on BTU & Tonnage Ratings:
Three ton is 36,000 BTUs.
The units are Rated in Nominal Tons per hour.
However, the nominal BTU/hr rating of some range from 36,000 down to around 34,000-BTU/hr.
Additionally, with high indoor temperatures & very high humidity a nominal 36,000-BTU/hr could go considerably higher.
Example, Goodman Expanded Data: a 3-ton condenser 13-SEER GSC130363A, with a 4-ton evaporator coil:
1434-cfm or 478-cfm per ton of cooling
85 OAT Outdoor Ambient Temp
80 IDB Indoor Dry Bulb
71 IWB Indoor Wet Bulb or 63% Relative Humidity
Nominal BTU/hr of 39,500
At 75 OAT outdoor Ambient Temp
other figures the same, nominal listed @ 40,500-BTU/hr. (At ARI Conditions)
Moderate outdoor temps coupled with high indoor temps results in a high latent humidity heatload through the evaporator coil which boils refrigerant at its fastest rate, which transfers more heat outdoors per unit of time.
That is why we should NOT be upsizing equipment for latent heat removal; because the A/C system increases its latent capacity to handle that load. When the unit is upsized the run-time operating-cycles can be way too short for effective latent heat (humidity) removal.
Size equipment for the Sensible Heatload at the mfg'ers Sensible Ratio design figuresSuperheat control of the refrigerant gas.
I would rather have my unit a little undersized than oversized!
One factor that is often overlooked in trying to increase humidity removal is the superheat of the suction gas. This factor can often be out of design conditions and the system seems to work fine. What happens is that the cooling coil does not fill up completely and the coil circuits run a little warmer. A five degrees warmer coil temperature can reduce humidity removal by more than 20%. Correct superheat should be about 13 degrees at the coil and about 16 to 17-degrees at the compressor. This measurement should be taken at 90+ outdoor temperature with indoor temperature (on cooler days block off condenser to achieve 90-degree pressure/temp factor) no higher than 80 degrees. Since superheat is a measurement of heat removal, these outdoor and indoor temperatures can affect the readings. The best time to set and adjust the superheat is on hot summer days. Also, locations of Supply Air and Return Air should be properly installed and airflow CFM must be at correct levels to insure a properly heatloaded evaporator coil, "before adjusting the Superheats!"
All evaporators ought to have "a balanced port (TEV) expansion valve." refrigerant control installed on them. It is important to keep the cooling coil temperature low enough and the run time cycles long enough to bring the humidity down to the comfort zone level.
"A colder evaporator coil, due to less cubic feet per minute (cfm) airflow, will condense and absorb a larger portion of the air's latent heat as compared to its sensible heat." With a properly sized system you will have more efficient longer run cycles. I believe that optimal efficiencies under variable latent heat loads could be effectively achieved through the use of computerized engineering.
The total latent and sensible evaporator heat load needs to be optimized at your normal operating conditions. This will also optimize the condenser heat load.
Additionally, it is critical to have the supply air and return air near the ceiling where the warmest air is so the temperature differential increases both sensible and the latent heat of moisture condensation transfer to the outside condensing unit!
This computerized control system AC would have to be sized to the combined latent and sensible heat load targets (i.e., 78ºF/50RH) and the cubic foot volume of air changes that we would like per hour. This would need to be performed accurately to achieve the requisite run time and our combined comfort zone and unit efficiency goals.
When it comes to airflow, the laws of physics apply. Air follows the line of least resistance. So many of the duct systems are poorly designed that ductwork problems can seriously curtail proper system performance. These factors usually show up in uneven temperatures through the conditioned area. In addition, airflow across the cooling coil can affect humidity removal. Too much air will result in poor dehumidification. Too little air can cause the registers to sweat. The right amount of air is usually between 325 CFM and 400 CFM per ton. Lower airflow will produce increased humidity removal, but compromises sensible heat removal. Finding the right air flow and run time balance can eliminate most of the comfort zone humidity problems.
Refrigerant Control Device
The device used to make a cooling coil evaporate refrigerant and thus absorb sensible heat and latent heat of humidity is called a Thermostatic Expansion Valve refrigerant control. The most effective refrigerant metering control in this application is a balanced port (TEV/TXV) expansion valve. The expansion valve provides consistent performance over a wide range of conditions that exist in any home. Without an expansion valve the entire system performance is compromised. Adding an expansion valve to an existing system can often improve performance, reduce operating costs, and extend the life of the overall system.
One factor that is often overlooked in trying to increase humidity removal is the superheat of the suction gas. Superheat can often be out of design conditions and the system seems to work fine. A five degrees warmer coil temperature can reduce humidity removal by 20% or more. Correct superheat should be about 13 degrees at the coil and about 16 to 17-degrees at the compressor. This measurement is best taken at 90+ outdoor temperature with indoor temperature around but no higher than 80 degrees. Since superheat is a measurement of heat these outdoor and indoor temperatures can affect the readings. The best time to set and adjust the superheat is on hot summer days.
If any of the above four (4) factors are not correct you can expect that humidity problems will occur. Other factors can affect the humidity levels. The way the house was built — the number of people that live there and the life style of the occupants. The correction of humidity problems in any residence can be accomplished simply by applying the above factors. This is why it is essential that you find a company that you can trust to solve your humidity problems. if neglected, humidity problems only get worse.
Whenever you have a heavy latent-heat-load of moisture for the evaporator coil to condense -- it will reduce the evaporator coil's ability to reduce the sensible air temperature of the conditioned air.
Proper duct sizing and location is important. Most older homes need reduced ambient (outside) air infiltration and more effective use of vapor barriers, coupled with adequate insulation. Windows and doors are special areas to work on. My upstairs windows around the pulley wheels for the weights, allowed air to blow through almost unrestricted from the attic area winter and summer.
In my opinion all the major components of air conditioning systems should be engineered and specially selected for the specific climate conditions where they will be used.
In humid climate areas the use of a dehumidistat and variable speed programmable indoor blower motors that use half the electricity of conventional motors should be used. Also, ask your Utility company about their "high efficiency Rebate Program," these programs can add to your energy cost savings.
Arid climates can use a higher SEER, higher temperature operating oversized coil system, coupled with 450 cfm, per btu/hr ton of cooling, -- cycling through the evaporator coil along with a lower rated btu/hr compressor to condenser ratio. the higher pressure keeps the pumping capacity up to its BTUH rating.
Let's say you had 0.20 IWC without evaporator coil and large oil furnace heat exchanger being near the coil 0.20-IWC was added, the coil adds 0.30-IWC for a total of 0.70-IWC . Check the static pressure with a wet coil then check the Units Blower Curve Chart to see if you are getting 350 to 400 or 450 CFM per ton of cooling, depending on the humidity removal requirements. Is the blower motor horsepower and blower wheel size and RPM up to the task?
There ought to be a code requiring every manufacturer of an airhandler or furnace to provide capped taps ahead of the evaporator coil and ahead of the blower for easy static pressure testing access.
All air conditioning condenser manufacturers' should publish the CFM and normal temperature rise range across the condenser coil, so that the service tech's can measure the heat transferred from the evaporator coil. Most high efficiency units will have temperature degree rises between 18 and 25ºF. Older lower SEER condensers can have temperature rises up to 28 or more degrees.
Such temperature rise data provides a guide to the actual heat transfer by the evaporator coil to the outdoor condenser coil, and therefore also, whether the proper design amount of (cubic feet per minute) CFM of indoor air/per ton of cooling BTU/HR, is passing through the heat absorbing -- cooling coil.
Most higher efficiency units are designed to operate at higher evaporator coil temperatures which results in less temperature drop, also the high outside and inside humidity levels will put a heavy latent heat-load on the evaporator coil and reduce and delay the conditioned area's temperature drop.
You may also have too much outside air infiltration into your home, check it out and reduce it, because warmer high humidity air will overload the evaporator coil with latent heat removal with the result being little if any reduction in humidity levels and no lowering of the actual sensible temperature readings in the conditioned areas.
In high humidity climates everything in the home is loaded with the latent heat of moisture. Humid air contains a lot of heat-loaded vapor. Some moisture is airborne but most of it resides or hides in the bricks, wooden furniture, carpeting, walls, and the concrete floors we walk on, etc. Dish washers, clothes washers and taking hot showers, etc., all add a lot of moisture to the air and to home materials.
This latent moisture in the conditioned area is vaporizing in the air, and as it is being conditioned it gives up its latent heat to the evaporator coil's liquid refrigerant causing it to boil into the heat absorbing refrigerant vapor. That heat-loaded vapor is then sucked back to the compressor where it is compressed into a high temperature gas in the condenser coils, where the outside air cooler outside air cools it below its condensing temperature point causing the vapor to condense into a liquid.
FINDING the LATENT HEAT OF CONDENSATION
The amount of heat energy in BTU's that must be removed to change the state of one pound of a vapor to one pound of liquid at the same temperature.
You don't have to know this, but to find the LATENT BTUH heat absorption transfer split, of the system, --measure the amount of condensate produced in a given time span and pro-rate it to an hour, or to BTU's per hour|(BTUH).
At a condensing temperature of 55ºF the latent heat transferred to cooling coil is close to 1,062 BTU per pound.
Latent heat of condensation = "multiply pounds of condensate per hour" "times the latent heat of condensation, at say 55ºF which is 1066-btu/lb.
For example, use an alarm timer set for 15 minutes, if you collect 18-ounces in 15 minutes, that's 72-oz/hour or 4.5-lbs an hour. (4.5-lbs X's 1066-btu/lb 4,797-BTUH) of latent heat transfer per hour.
Or you can convert with ounces: X 66.625-btu/oz = BTUH of latent heat absorption transfer performed by evaporator coil. 72-ounces *-X's 66.625= 4,797-BTUH of latent heat transfer per hour. You can use a kitchen dietetic scale in ounces to weigh the condensate.
18,000 - -latent heat absorbed and 10,538-BTUH of sensible heat transfer, at its Rated Tonnage Capacity.
18,000 - 4,797-BTUH latent equals 13,203 BTUH of sensible heat transfer. What is the usual latent/sensible split on your A/C unit? If you see any errors let me know!
(Note: Immediately after passing through the evaporator coil the cooler air is near the 100% humidity level and will not absorb more vapor moisture until it mixes with the room air bringing it to a higher temperature. This is why if your returns and supply air are at the floor level, coupled with low air flow, it is important to use low amperage fans to mix the warmer ceiling air with the cooler floor level air.
This dehumidification process continues until a stabilized point is reached in the entire home or building. The air conditioner will continue to pull that moisture out of the surroundings for days before it reaches a point of equalization at a specific system design point. Eventually, it will reach your chosen temperature and humidity comfort zone set point level.
Since a home air unit may circulate all of the air in a space (the home) six to eight times an hour, then it would change the temperature and lower the humidity of that total volume only during each pass through the cooling coil, —of the entire conditioned space.
How much run-time combined with the amount of CFM airflow over a large area cooling coil represent the critical latent and sensible heat removal factors. Each pass through a coil that is below dew-point will remove additional moisture. Increasing the number of the conditioned space passages through a warmer coil can remove more moisture than lesser conditioned space passages through a colder coil. Therefore, CFM Vs room volume Vs run time and the area of the cooling coil are critical factors that directly affect the total heat removal equation.
Using a larger cooling coil with more area of coils and fins at below the dew-point of entering air will permit a bigger volume of air at a lower velocity through the coil. This will increase the systems rate of latent heat of moisture removal per hour that is of great benefit for improving the comfort zone at higher 78 degree temperatures permitting lower cooling costs.
As compared to the amount of air infiltration and increased rate of sensible heat load during an hour, —four (4) conditioned space air changes per hour compared to six or 8 changes per hour also makes a big difference in the amount of latent and sensible cooling a system will produce. With the coils and fins below the dew-point of air entering the evaporator coil, more airflow up to 450 CFM per ton of cooling Btu's will reduce humidity more rapidly than a 35 degree coil but with low airflow at the minimum of 350 CFM/Ton cooling.
Once you get the humidity down in your home, unless the air is very dry, don't open your home up and work to stop all the air infiltration you can. This is important because your AC system will have to run a long time again just to pull the new latent moisture heat load out of the air and materials in your home!
Under very extreme conditions, your air conditioner can work for some time up to 90% of the time just to remove the latent moisture heat and only around 10% to lower the sensible heat load, which finally lowers the room temperature. In humid climates, removing moisture should be the most important focus in the selection of your Air Conditioning System.
Simply matching coils doesn't mean you are getting the SEER rating or the rated BTUs of your new or older unit if the indoor airflow, the ductwork, and the entire refrigerant system is not balanced to design specifications! The evaporator coil has to be carrying its designed maximum heat absorption load or your system will not deliver its BTU/HR design rating or its SEER rating.
In order to achieve high SEER ratings, condensers and evaporators are generally btu/hr oversized and compressors are btu/hr undersized. Many 12 SEER 18,000 btu/hr condensers have 16,500 btu/hr compressors and 2 ton evaporator coils. This combination could make reducing humidity more difficult. The SEER increase is based on higher evaporator temperatures and suction line pressures for increased volumetric capacity, permitting the use of lower amp draw compressors. Manufacturer's should design units with a little more compressor btu/hr capacity for very humid climate regions, so TEV refrigerant temperature controlled evaporator coils could be set closer to the freezing point.
Remember that many oil furnaces have a large round heat exchanger in the center up to near the top and if the evaporator coil is set too close this can cause extreme turbulence and back pressure which could be a huge factor in running the static pressure way up!All furnaces and air handlers should have a static pressure/blower-curve line graph chart sticker on them for use my the AC technicians to use to accurately adjust required CFM for that residence's specific ductwork pressures.
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All HVAC/R work should always be done by a licensed Contractor! This information is only placed on these pages for your understanding & communication with contractors & techs.
This information is for the edification of contractors and techs. I am NOT liable for your screw-ups, you are liable for what you do! - Darrell UdelhovenDarrell's Refrigeration Heating and Air Conditioning - Federal Refrigerant Licensed - Retired Licensed Contractor
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